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Hi Guys

Another quick update. The first WARPAC list has now been created. Its the East German Motorised Rifle Division list and can be seen here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f0GNxz ... sp=sharing

Can also be found on my blog (below) and on the BG:NORTHAG Development forum.

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Richard, thanks for this. I can now see how well my recently purchased GDR force matches your list. Some info I found says that the East Germans used the BTR50? Is this true? I have bought both BTR50s and BTR60s.

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Some info I found says that the East Germans used the BTR50? Is this true? I have bought both BTR50s and BTR60s.
Hi Simon

From what I have read the primary APC/IFVs of the NVA were BTR-60PBs (or SPW-60PBs) and BMP-1s. SPW-70s and BMP-2s were also used.

We've included the BTR-50PU as a command vehicle option for the East Germans.

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If my memory serves me right BTR-50 was replaced entirely by BMPs at the start of the 1980's. They would be ok for 1970's though. Infantry transports during 1980's were mix of BMPs, BTR-60s and BTR-152s.
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Hi Guys

Another quick update. We now have 3 East German lists up:
  • East German Motorised Rifle Division;
  • East German Panzer Division; and
  • East German Paramilitary Battlegroup
They can all be found on my blog (below) and on the BG:NORTHAG Development forum here:

http://battlegroupwargame.forumotion.co ... rman-lists

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Many thanx.... thmbs2)
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Thanks Richard

good work on the lists

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Need to be careful on the radar side and the wrong kind of leaves :D - synthetic aperture radar is not only able to penetrate woods but also has the ability to differentiate buildings from trees and anything like a big chunk of metal will stand out like a sore thumb. As well as the fact that most forested areas tend not to have a massively dense outer leaf canopy in Europe. Doppler is only 1 factor and it's really easy to filter out noise from a static band of slow moving material like leaves and branches once a basic survey is done.

Also Lidar can image to a good depth in leaves, even as dense as rainforest canopy and has been around for a while.
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Though its worth noting that SAR is not really a search sensor its field of view is too small. It *is* very good at IDing things, but you have to point it in the right direction first. This means you have to have some sort of ground surveillance radar mode to queue up the SAR (and those are very rare for aircraft) or someone else has to point out the location of interest
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Agreed on that one - it can sweep though but only really useful where you can scan parallel to the terrain.
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Hi Guys

Another quick update. I just posted up a draft Belgian Mechanised Infantry - Armoured Battlegroup lists up:

You can look at it here
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1md_Yo ... rU2qexWhMf

and it and all the other can be found on my blog (below) and on the BG:NORTHAG Development forum here:

http://battlegroupwargame.forumotion.co ... evelopment

Looking for any feedback anyone is willing to give.

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Hi Guys

Time for another update. Two Polish Lists:

Polish Motorised Rifle Division Battlegroup 1.1
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BP1s2 ... Q_QhJ5qaEk

Polish Armoured Division Battlegroup 1.1
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RpSrl ... 6-jf3_CvGr

Both lists have been edited in the last 24 hours (12/9/18). You can also find them on my blog or on the BG:NORTHAG Development Forum.

Happy to look at any feedback - good or bad!

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Many thanx Richard, hope to get another play test in soonest and will revert then.... thmbs2)
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SAR will be diffused by tree tops and has trouble coping with wavy tall crops! Modern SAR is pretty good, and with coherent change detection will pick up foot prints. Back in the 80s its use was uber limited, JSTARs flew during Op Granby and was good at detecting stuff in the middle of the desert and there are good photos of MTI monitoring the retreat from Kuwait. The UK had nothing of its own until ASTOR in the 2000s. Early SAR was good for change detection, providing one had an Optical image as a guide. It can have a massive field of view, a sensor flying over Salisbury will capture most of Salisbury plain, about 20 miles away.
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Another Polish List has now been added. This time it's the Polish Naval Landing Brigade - allowing you to field forces from the 7th Luzycka Naval Landing Brigade.

Polish Naval Landing Brigade


Any feedback will be gratefully accepted!

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Thanx again Richard.... thmbs2)
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Hi Guys

Final Polish list has now been added for the 6th Pomeranian Airborne Brigade. It can be found here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=19IAbe ... yl3PVoPQ_e

or on my blog listed below.

As always - happy for any positive or negative feedback.

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Hi Guys

Just letting you know I have posted a new French Armoured List up on my blog. You can also look at it here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WAojB ... i6f_jj946K

Let me know if you find any errors etc.

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Richard
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Thanks Richard

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Many thanx Richard..... thmbs2)

These are always a great inspiration for our Modern gaming, please keep them coming...... 8-)
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