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dead1 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 11:12 pm

mausmann wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 5:46 pm As ever it's a case of to each their own........ The world would be a boring place if we all felt the same way....

Whereas I agree with everyone likes a different game be it What a Tanker/IABSM/Battlegroup/Bolt Action/Flames of War/COC etc etc, I also find ahistorical matchups to be beyond cringe worthy and smacking of laziness (and sometimes just the pursuit of power gaming).

I'd rather not play than have Finns fighting Japanese on a desert board or whatever other daft combo.

Exactly, I shudder with horror when I see those type of games, may as well just play with rocks and bits of wood

wargameroz wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 12:36 am

dead1 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 11:12 pm

mausmann wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 5:46 pm As ever it's a case of to each their own........ The world would be a boring place if we all felt the same way....

Whereas I agree with everyone likes a different game be it What a Tanker/IABSM/Battlegroup/Bolt Action/Flames of War/COC etc etc, I also find ahistorical matchups to be beyond cringe worthy and smacking of laziness (and sometimes just the pursuit of power gaming).

I'd rather not play than have Finns fighting Japanese on a desert board or whatever other daft combo.

Exactly, I shudder with horror when I see those type of games, may as well just play with rocks and bits of wood

Oh I can beat that....anyone remember the breakfast cereal game at Partizan....?

Oh yes and the entire army of unpainted figures at a demo game at the very first Bovington show.

mausmann wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 11:26 am
Oh I can beat that....anyone remember the breakfast cereal game at Partizan....?

What was the breakfast cereal game?

Here in Australia we don't really do gaming conventions except Cancon which seems all about popular games.

wargameroz wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 12:36 amExactly, I shudder with horror when I see those type of games, may as well just play with rocks and bits of wood

Which opens up that gigantic can of worms that just because a game table looks like WWII, is it actually a game about WWII?

Or is it just a generic game system that could as easily be played with rocks and wood, or, Orcs and Elves?

TacticalPainter wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 11:23 pm

wargameroz wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 12:36 amExactly, I shudder with horror when I see those type of games, may as well just play with rocks and bits of wood

Which opens up that gigantic can of worms that just because a game table looks like WWII, is it actually a game about WWII?

Or is it just a generic game system that could as easily be played with rocks and wood, or, Orcs and Elves?

Well I tend to play Rapid Fire or Battlegroup Kursk etc so in those cases yes, plus I try, where possible to use tactics from WW2, and I have a fairly good library of WW2 books from which I like to transfer ideas to my Battlefield.

Personally I’d rather not play a game than play DAK against Japanese as an example I have seen at MOAB a while back

The breakfast cereal game was where various cereal characters played against each other on a red and white checked table cloth. Things like toasters and teapots played a part too. At least that was my perception of it.
Run by Shaun of The Bunker iirc, it looked great fun tbh!

My regiment charged as part of the Light Brigade. A French Officer observing described it as “Magnificent - but not war!” Just saying.

mausmann wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 9:00 am The breakfast cereal game was where various cereal characters played against each other on a red and white checked table cloth. Things like toasters and teapots played a part too. At least that was my perception of it.
Run by Shaun of The Bunker iirc, it looked great fun tbh!

Sounds like a bit of fun!

SABOT wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 5:59 pm My regiment charged as part of the Light Brigade. A French Officer observing described it as “Magnificent - but not war!” Just saying.

Ah what do the French know! Last war they won was when?!?

I was lucky enough to go to Partizan yesterday and purely by chance met Shaun of the Bunker.....

He remembers the game well! It was all a last minute affair, and they wrote the rules for the game on the way to the show. The idea behind it was to show that you could game with anything and at very little cost. The total cost for the game was £2.65.
Lots of fun ideas in it too. As a player if you encountered the toaster you had to eat the toast...yes it was plugged in and working. A random card determined the topping........tough if you didn’t like marmite for example, as if you refused to eat the toast you were out of the game. If you encountered the Rice Krispies box that released the dreaded Cereal Killer etc etc. The main figures used were plastic soldiers similar to the ones in Toy Story, which was the inspiration for the game. The game changed during the day too, as they borrowed some figures from someone else, plastic paratroopers. Bad news if they landed in the milk as that meant they drowned automatically....

I have the rules and it does look like a fun game, and the choice is yours, go down the route of historical encounters or just go mad and do stuff!

I ran a game a good few years ago at an annual liaison function. Called killing Private Ryan the aim was to drive a little radio control Dragon Models Tiger around a load of buildings and a bridge and run over an American soldier! Everything on the table was painted and the German SB lads loved it!

What a Tanker is pretty much perfect as a light multi-player game. Lots of fun as players drive their tanks around trying to get a good shot.
We've tried late war Normandy (Hetzer + Panzer IV vs Achilles + Cromwell), Desert (M13/41 + Panzer III vs Crusader III + Matilda) and early war Russia (T28 + T34 vs Pz38T + Stug). All great fun.
I wouldn't want to play it all the time, but I've enjoyed the games I've played, and it is an excuse to get things like the T28, Elefant or Jagdtiger on the table.