RF infantry adaptions?
RF infantry adaptions?
Does anyone have any adaptions they use for infantry for RF....?
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but in what direction we are moving,
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but sail we must, and not drift nor lie at anchor.
Re: RF infantry adaptions?
Before me and my best wargamin* buddy moved away from RF ;we adapted a rule of no figure groups larger than a Coy could fire together as the multiples made madness of the cover factors. I mean by this that enough men firing will always have the opportunity to take out the enemy when they should really be using support? Just a way of limiting firepower.
Re: RF infantry adaptions?
These are worth a look – Rapido Fire – a couple of different attempts to move away from a table-based fire system to a dice-only one
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=392463
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=392463
Re: RF infantry adaptions?
Interesting, thanx for posting.... 
Greatness is not in where we stand,
but in what direction we are moving,
we must sail sometimes in the wind,
and sometimes against it,
but sail we must, and not drift nor lie at anchor.
but in what direction we are moving,
we must sail sometimes in the wind,
and sometimes against it,
but sail we must, and not drift nor lie at anchor.
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Re: RF infantry adaptions?
Late war SS and panzergrenadier +1 added to group fire for the additional automatic weapons
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Re: RF infantry adaptions?
Chris Leach of our group came up with a fast play infantry fire table, which worked out pretty much the same as the original.
If you PM me your e-mail address I will send you a copy, it is a Word Document.
I tried to post it here but the tables did not work properly.
If you PM me your e-mail address I will send you a copy, it is a Word Document.
I tried to post it here but the tables did not work properly.
Re: RF infantry adaptions?
We use different ranges for infantry a/t weapons.....ie 12” for Baz/PazSchreck and 9” for PIAT/PzFaust.....
Greatness is not in where we stand,
but in what direction we are moving,
we must sail sometimes in the wind,
and sometimes against it,
but sail we must, and not drift nor lie at anchor.
but in what direction we are moving,
we must sail sometimes in the wind,
and sometimes against it,
but sail we must, and not drift nor lie at anchor.
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Re: RF infantry adaptions?
Which remains contentious and does bugger up other associated rules...
interestingly "effective ranges" of the main weapons are listed below.... i'd suspect half that is acually effective?
PIAT
Effective firing range 115 yd (105 m)
Maximum firing range 350 yd (320 m)
Panzerfaust 60-150
Effective firing range 60 m up to 150m
Panzerschreck (RPzB 54)
Effective firing range 150 m
Bazooka
Effective firing range 300m
Which makes the bazooka the daddy of them all, however, in a letter dated May 20, 1944, Gen. George S. Patton stated to a colleague that "the purpose of the bazooka is not to hunt tanks offensively, but to be used as a last resort in keeping tanks from overrunning infantry. To insure this, the range should be held to around 30 yards. which is around 30m......
Re: RF infantry adaptions?
When I typed the post I did wonder if you would comment..... 
For sure it has and still is a debated subject in the Shed at times!
As you know we bent the rules here ( and not a few other adaptions too...) specifically to give infantry more relevance in the game by attempting to increase their offensive capabilities and their survivability.
In basic RF they have a real dirt mission and get blown away far too easily for our liking.
With a 12” range it does make armor a lot more wary, and as importantly discourages armor from sitting just outside heroic action range blasting away at the PBI with impunity.
Interesting that the rumoured RF3 has a different basing system, which has the effect of reducing infantry casualties and making them last longer in a game....
For sure it has and still is a debated subject in the Shed at times!
As you know we bent the rules here ( and not a few other adaptions too...) specifically to give infantry more relevance in the game by attempting to increase their offensive capabilities and their survivability.
In basic RF they have a real dirt mission and get blown away far too easily for our liking.
With a 12” range it does make armor a lot more wary, and as importantly discourages armor from sitting just outside heroic action range blasting away at the PBI with impunity.
Interesting that the rumoured RF3 has a different basing system, which has the effect of reducing infantry casualties and making them last longer in a game....
Greatness is not in where we stand,
but in what direction we are moving,
we must sail sometimes in the wind,
and sometimes against it,
but sail we must, and not drift nor lie at anchor.
but in what direction we are moving,
we must sail sometimes in the wind,
and sometimes against it,
but sail we must, and not drift nor lie at anchor.
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Re: RF infantry adaptions?
A simple fix would be to use the saving throws as suggested for medics, but don't go through the complicated system of putting them in the first aid post and bringing them back later.
Limiting tank ammo is another effective way of stopping them blazing away at everything.
Don't hold your breathe waiting for RF3.
Don
Limiting tank ammo is another effective way of stopping them blazing away at everything.
Don't hold your breathe waiting for RF3.
Don
Re: RF infantry adaptions?
Cheers Don , using the medics as you describe is another of our adaptions, it works well.....Don McHugh wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:38 am A simple fix would be to use the saving throws as suggested for medics, but don't go through the complicated system of putting them in the first aid post and bringing them back later.
Limiting tank ammo is another effective way of stopping them blazing away at everything.
Don't hold your breathe waiting for RF3.
Don
And I’m not expecting RF 3 anytime soon.....
Greatness is not in where we stand,
but in what direction we are moving,
we must sail sometimes in the wind,
and sometimes against it,
but sail we must, and not drift nor lie at anchor.
but in what direction we are moving,
we must sail sometimes in the wind,
and sometimes against it,
but sail we must, and not drift nor lie at anchor.