The film taken from in front of the tank is frightening.
Crocodile in action
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Re: Crocodile in action
Nice footage, I wonder how accurate it is? The splash back looks an interesting effect, you obviously need to get the flame jet through the doors or windows on a building.
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What exactly do you mean by "how accurate" ? It is real film of the real tank performing, how much more accurate do you require ?Fire at Will wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:57 am Nice footage, I wonder how accurate it is? The splash back looks an interesting effect, you obviously need to get the flame jet through the doors or windows on a building.
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Great and terrifying footage!
According to accounts in the 79th Divisional history, crews could squirt the fuel mix into embrasures and doors/windows etc with a little practice.....they certainly persuaded lots of Germans to throw the towel in after a demo on a bunker or two...........
According to accounts in the 79th Divisional history, crews could squirt the fuel mix into embrasures and doors/windows etc with a little practice.....they certainly persuaded lots of Germans to throw the towel in after a demo on a bunker or two...........
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Difficult to know exactly what they were aiming at, especially observing the splash back, it might take 2-3 attempts to get it through a window if that was what they intended.Alanmccoubrey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:24 amWhat exactly do you mean by "how accurate" ? It is real film of the real tank performing, how much more accurate do you require ?Fire at Will wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:57 am Nice footage, I wonder how accurate it is? The splash back looks an interesting effect, you obviously need to get the flame jet through the doors or windows on a building.
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Brutal. Thank you for sharing the video. 
I was surprised to see how fast it moved. Somehow I imagined the Churchill was slower than that.
The Churchill Crocodile must have made up a little bit for the disappointing British tanks earlier in the war.
(PS I too misread Fire at Will's accuracy comment as referring to the footage, not the flamethrower.
I like how good natured this forum always is, even when people misunderstand each other. 
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I was surprised to see how fast it moved. Somehow I imagined the Churchill was slower than that.
The Churchill Crocodile must have made up a little bit for the disappointing British tanks earlier in the war.
(PS I too misread Fire at Will's accuracy comment as referring to the footage, not the flamethrower.
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Re: Crocodile in action
Will, firing anything from a moving tank was inaccurate in those days and I very much doubt that the object was to get the flame through a window, just to spray the building with flame. It would be the same with a pillbox, just spray it and let the liquid fire run in where it could, getting the people out was as good as killing them in there.
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Crocodiles had a tactic for dealing with deep bunkers involving spraying flame oil on to a target allowing the oil to run down into the position and only then igniting the oil with a jet of flame.
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So you could use the thrower without the igniter?
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Yes, certainly the Croc could not sure if other flame throwers had that option but having the flame oil arrive cold must have added a further level of terror to flame weapons know what will inevitably follow.
No doubt the huge fuel trailer helps with this sort of tactic.
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Cheers Dave, many thanx...
And for sure that is a hefty fuel supply, enough for a squirt or three....
And for sure that is a hefty fuel supply, enough for a squirt or three....
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we must sail sometimes in the wind,
and sometimes against it,
but sail we must, and not drift nor lie at anchor.
but in what direction we are moving,
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and sometimes against it,
but sail we must, and not drift nor lie at anchor.
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I was just confirming what he had put, accelerating decrepitude is taking it’s toll I guess......
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and sometimes against it,
but sail we must, and not drift nor lie at anchor.
but in what direction we are moving,
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and sometimes against it,
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